SUPERTRAMP: Did you know ? - ¿ Sabías qué ?
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in 1973 when they already were in Supertramp, for the album "You & Me", Roger on bass and guitar on 4 tracks. And Rick Davies on drums.
en 1973, estando en Supertramp, tocaron en el album "You & Me", Roger al bajo ya la guitarra en 4 temas. Y Rick Davies a la batería.
David Gilmour (Pink Floyd) has collaborated with Supertramp
in 1985 for the album "Brother were you bound", David performed a guitar solo in the title-song
David Gilmour (Pink Floyd) ha colaborado con Supertramp
en 1985 en el album "Brother were you bound", interpretando un solo de guitarra en la canción del mismo nombre
John Helliwell has collaborated with Pink Floyd
in 1987, album "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason", playing saxophone. As a return-favour for the previous Gilmour collaboration.
en 1987, album "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason", con su sonido inconfundible de saxofon. Como una especie de devolver el favor de la colaboración previa de Gilmour
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This was supposed to be providing some of the sustained synth sounds but was merely an eye catching stage device.
The song "Land Ho" from the album "Retrospectacle" year 2005
was recorded in 1974, and published as a single that year, together with "Summer romance". In 1987 Roger Hodgson released a version, almost identical, on his album "Hai Hai", because he's the composer.
El tema "Land Ho" del album "Retrospectacle" en 2005 fué grabado en 1974 por Supertramp y publicado como single dicho año junto con "Summer romance". Y es practicamente idéntica a la que Roger ya publicó en solitario en su disco "Hai Hai" en 1987, ya que es el compositor del tema.
The song "You started laughing"
surprised to all of us in the album Paris in 1980, because most of us didn't know that song, not included in any previous album. Actually was released as B-side single of "Lady" in 1975 . It was not included in the album "Crisis, what crisis ?" due to lack of physical space in the vinyl, without affecting the quality of sound.
La canción "You started laughing"
que tanto nos sorprendió a todos en el album Paris de 1980, ya que no la conocíamos de ningún album anterior, fué en realidad publicada en single como cara B de "Lady" en 1975, ya que no cabía físicamente en el disco "Crisis, what crisis ?", sin perjudicar la calidad del sonido (surco del vinilo mas estrecho)
The song "Give a litle bit" is souding in certain moment during the "Superman" movie (1978)
La canción "Give a little bit" suena unos instantes durante la pelicula "Superman" de 1978
Initial title for "Crisis ? what crisis ?" album
was "Second offence". Funny tittle after first hit "Crime". But during the oil-crisis at that time the final title was even better !. And the initial name for "Breakfast in America" album was "Hello stranger".
El titulo inicial para el album "Crisis ? what crisis ?"
fué "Second offence". ("Segundo delito"), gracioso titulo tras el primer "Crimen" que les llevó a la fama, pero es que en plena Crisis del pertróleo el título definitivo fué incluso mejor ! Y el título inicial para el exitoso "Breakfast in America" fué "Hello stranger".
The song "Gold rush" from the album "Slow Motion"
released in 2002, is actually an old Supertramp song. It was the opening number in all their concerts in the early times (circa 1970-72) and it was composed by R. Palmer (lyrics) and Rick & Roger (music-melodies)
La canción "Gold rush" del album "Slow Motion"
publicado en 2002, es en realidad una vieja canción de Supertramp, que usaban siempre para abrir sus conciertos en los primeros tiempos (sobre 1970-72) y fué compuesta por R. Palmer (letras) y Rick & Roger (musica-melodia)
Both bands are based on two composers (Lennon / McCartney - Davies / Hodgson)
The end of Beatles coincided with the beginning of Supertramp, keeping a similar progressive-rock style.
In the beginning, when they were unknown, both bands played in bars and clubs in Germany (Hamburg / Munich).Both Roger and Paul, both guitarists began playing bass because no one else wanted to do it.They have different songs with the same name as "Two of us", "Free as a bird", "Oh Darling".
Let's see: the early Pink Floyd in 1967 and Supertramp in 1969, both in London, just a couple of years gap.
In both bands there's a prominent composer of the hits, called Roger (Roger Hodgson / Roger Waters)
After this first success, they published two more albums rather than increased their fame, coincident in time (1975 -> "Wish you were here" vs "Crisis what crisis?", 1977 -> "Animals" vs "Even in the Quietest moments ")
In 1979 both bands released their most successful album ("The Wall" vs "Breakfast in America")
The tour that followed these releases, with all its pressures and constraints, caused great tension that later would lead to the break years later.
The next album released, in both cases, it was the end of the story..... and very similar titles in concept ("The Final Cut" 1983 vs "Famous Last Words" 1982)
After that, both "Roger" took to their solo careers, and the bands have continued with the rest of members.
Supertramp y Pink Floyd, historias paralelas ?
Veamos: los inicios de Pink Floyd en 1967 y los de Supertramp en 1969, ambos en Londres, con solo un par de años de diferencia.
El primer álbum con gran éxito de Pink Floyd fué "Dark side of the moon" en 1973 y el de Supertramp fué "Crime of the Century" en 1974, muy cercanos en el tiempo (uno con referencias a la Luna y otro al Universo, portadas miticas ....)
En ambas bandas destaca como compositor de los grandes éxitos el nombre de Roger (Roger Hodgson / Roger Waters)
Tras ese primer éxito, publicaron un par de albumes más que aumentaban su fama, coincidentes en el tiempo (1975 --> "Wish you were here" vs "Crisis? what crisis?", 1977 --> "Animals" vs "Even in the Quietest moments")
En 1979 ambas bandas publicaron su disco de más éxito ("The Wall" vs "Breakfast in America")
La gira que siguió dichos lanzamientos, con todas sus presiones y condicionantes, provocó grandes tensiones que posteriormente desembocarían en la ruptura años después.
El siguiente disco que lanzaron ambas bandas fué el último en ambos casos, y con unos titulos muy similares ("The Final Cut" 1983 vs "Famous last words" 1982)
Tras ello los dos Roger se lanzaron a sus carreras en solitario, y las bandas han continuado con el resto de miembros. Nunca se han vuelto a reunificar ambas bandas.
Did you know? / ¿ Sabías qué?